Jay Z, especially at this point in his career, is not someone who does a lot of interviews. Since the release of 4:44, he has done a grand total of one public chat. But Wednesday’s New York Times brings Jay Z obsessives a giant treasure trove. NYT executive editor Dean Baquet sat down with the rap icon for what is arguably Jay’s most revealing interview.
The piece, which you can read (and watch!) here, begins with “The Story of O.J.,” and Baquet’s own childhood obsession with O.J. Simpson. The talk moves from that to fatherhood, racism in the age of Trump, what Jay learned from being in therapy, and more.
For music fans, arguably the most interesting parts have to do with Baquet inquiring about whether Jay had actually been unhappy during the height of his success—whether he had “been in a lot of pain when life was good.” The question sparked Jay to mention one of his most-loved songs, The Blueprint’s “Song Cry.”
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